...for your input, much appreciated :D Drillbit: Thanks so much for taking the time to offer so much useful criticism, unfortunately my computer has been playing up so I've not had a chance to do a side by side comparison yet, though I'm sure the mastering you did will make a difference as that is my weakest area production wise.... I actually forgot to stick a limiter on the master bus when I rendered, which is why the levels are so low, I'm gonna do a bit of eqing in the areas you suggested - I don't have monitors (yet) so I do all my mixing on headphones (which are flat....allegedly anyway....) and use my hifi as a reference, not ideal, I know, but beggars and all that...... Love the idea about filtering the sample, and will extend the groove (I was a bit worried about it getting too repetitive, but it's par for the course in this genre) I'm gonna post another finished tune, I'd love to get your input on that one too if you have the time.... Edit: Having problems downloading the file you posted drillbit..... Bardo: Yes I'm planning on filling it out a bit, but I've promised myself to try and keep things relatively simple - less being more and all that, which kinda answers your question about headspace... Also with the sub I eqed the bass kicks, the subs, and the reese (synthy growling bass sound) so they didn't encroach too much on eachother.... Thanks for taking the time to listen!